Memory: The Singer's Singer

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Re: Memory: The Singer's Singer

Post by mike » Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:19 pm

ROBERT M. wrote:There are only a few songs by Matt which I don't really like, but Diana is not one of those :wink: :)
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Re: Memory: The Singer's Singer

Post by Lena & Harry Smith » Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:38 am

Well money does talk all languages Karl, I've a feeling it was a brave person who had to tell Sandie Shaw she would have to sing and record that song. :? but there you go, I suppose once the £ signs flashed up it worked magic. :lol: :lol:

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Re: Memory: The Singer's Singer

Post by ROBERT M. » Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:59 am

Patti Page had the big hit in the US with How Much Is That Doggie In The Window :wink: :)
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Re: Memory: The Singer's Singer

Post by Lena & Harry Smith » Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:15 am

Yes, and as far as I know, like many, she accepted the rewards graciously. :wink: :wink: and I suppose if I was forced to choose between the two ( heaven forbid) it would be Patti's version :lol:

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Re: Memory: The Singer's Singer

Post by Rmoore » Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:14 pm

ROBERT M. wrote:........if Matt had stated that he disliked Diana so much, surely that would have hurt the feelings of lyricist Don Black his best mate, so it just does not add up really :wink: :|
Matt didn't state publicly that he disliked the song so it wouldn't have hurt Mr Blacks feelings. This is something Michele has told me. I think Hate is probably the wrong word for mat's feelings, but he didn't like it that's for sure.

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Re: Memory: The Singer's Singer

Post by karl » Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:45 pm

Richard I bet you wish you never mentioned this!!!! :roll:

Anyway, even if Don Black did write it - it wasn't mandatory that Matt should like it.

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Re: Memory: The Singer's Singer

Post by Rmoore » Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:01 pm

In a nutshell Karl!

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Re: Memory: The Singer's Singer

Post by ROBERT M. » Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:31 am

mike wrote:
ROBERT M. wrote:There are only a few songs by Matt which I don't really like, but Diana is not one of those :wink: :)
Do tell
Well Mamma Packed a Picnic Tea for starters :wink:
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Re: Memory: The Singer's Singer

Post by ROBERT M. » Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:34 am

karl wrote:
Anyway, even if Don Black did write it - it wasn't mandatory that Matt should like it.
Yes, of course Matt didn't have to like every song Don wrote, but he wouldn't want to hurt Don's feelings by telling him the truth :wink:
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Re: Memory: The Singer's Singer

Post by Rmoore » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:35 am

Mama Pack a Picnic tea is a rare moment where George Martin lost all sense of what makes a good song - a rarity with George, John Burgess on the other hand picked more than his fair share of clunkers - particularly on the Long & Winding Road LP but none of them quite as bad as Mama Packed. But even that is better than 'French Poodle'.

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Re: Memory: The Singer's Singer

Post by karl » Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:20 am

Robert. Don Black may be a good songwriter but he's not God. People in showbusiness face criticism constantly and they are bound to realise everything they do is not wonderful!

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Re: Memory: The Singer's Singer

Post by mike » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:50 pm

ROBERT M. wrote:
mike wrote:
ROBERT M. wrote:There are only a few songs by Matt which I don't really like, but Diana is not one of those :wink: :)
Do tell
Well Mamma Packed a Picnic Tea for starters :wink:
Listening to it on itunes right now. It certainly is an odd one. French Poodle next up.

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Re: Memory: The Singer's Singer

Post by ROBERT M. » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:50 am

karl wrote:Robert. Don Black may be a good songwriter but he's not God. People in showbusiness face criticism constantly and they are bound to realise everything they do is not wonderful!
Yes Karl you are correct, but I'm saying Matt would not tell Don about any "clunkers" because of their close friendship...............I bought the Don Black book Wrestling With Elephants nearly 10 years ago (where have those 10 years gone!!), but I cannot see any mention of the song Diana :wink:
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Re: Memory: The Singer's Singer

Post by Rmoore » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:36 pm

You can read an awful lot of rubbish about Matt in that book too!

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Re: Memory: The Singer's Singer

Post by ROBERT M. » Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:57 am

Rmoore wrote:You can read an awful lot of rubbish about Matt in that book too!
Yes Richard, you are not kidding :!: ..............after I read the chapter that Don wrote about Matt, I thought he had made most of it up :roll: ............I disliked Don for a long time afterwards because of it.

If Don wrote false truths about Matt, couldn't Michele do anything about it ? as it is libel.........isn't it ?
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