PRIDE OF BRITAIN AWARDS

[Lena & Harry Smith]

Your posting may be for Karl Robert, but seeing as we are in the firing line for springing to your defence, we'll confirm your statement. No...you are not in the wrong. Regardless of this being the Pride of Britain awards programme with winners whom we all respect, there were hilarios moments this year too and yes there was laughter, for instance when the 91 year dare-devil gentleman Tom Lackey received his reward from Ellie Macpherson who said I'll strap you to my wings anyday, to which Tom replied..You'll have to hurry up because you're getting on a bit and I like them young.
Now don't you think that's funny Karl or did you close your eyes and put your hands over your ears, and prefer to feel disgusted with everyone there who smiled on such an occasion as this.

[karl]

Excuse me but I am not talking about the 2010 show Robert is, I am talking about 2011 and yes there were humorous moments but in the whole it's a very serious and humbling show which is the point I am trying to make.

If you want to talk about custard pies in the face then please feel free to open another thread, and Robert I make no apologies to you as you have been rather sharp yourself in the past so consider us even.

OH and Robert I never realised you were only 6, I thought you were at least 10, that was a joke incase you though I was being flippant.

[Marian]

Who gives you the right to direct where and what we put on the forum Karl, and where we put it?

[john]

I didn't actually see the awards, I noticed the thread on it on here the other night and saw Roberts comment and immediately knew it was meant in a light hearted manner. I never thought any more about it until I looked at the thread again a few minuts ago and saw all the posts. I personally don't see anything wrong in what Robert said, it was just a light hearted joke.
Just watched the clip where Cheryl did get a custard pie in her face at last years awards which is what Robert meant.

[karl]

Marian I thought we had become friends over the past few months after an initial tough period but it seems I was wrong, very wrong!
Talk about a dirty cast up!!!! However I am grateful your true colours have finally been shown and I have the full measure of you now!

You all seem totally incapable of accepting the point I am trying to make but to be honest I am sick of trying to make you see what I meant in the first place which was THIS YEARS AWARDS, not 2010. And it's taken several posts for anyone to actually mention the old man and his humorous comments.

Also Marian to quote you "Who gives you the right to dictate where posts should go", I was dictated to by several of you when I first joined if I put a post in the wrong place. Personally I don't really care where a post is put but many of you have hysterics when it happens.

[john]

Karl, what gives you the right to talk to people the way that you do on the forum. I think that some of your remarks are downright rude and insulting and totally uncalled for. It seems that you are not happy unless you are pecking away at someone for no good reason. You have had a go at nearly every member of the forum in one way or another since you joined the forum. If you haven't anything pleasant to say then keep it to yourself.

[Michele Monro]

RIGHT LET'S GET THIS STRAIGHT.

I'm the only one who will decide what can be said on this Forum. I did not watch the Awards last year and had no idea what Robert's reference meant however upon reading the post, I would have known by the measure of the man that is wasn't meant to be an sort of insult to any of the brave people who are included in the awards ceremony. If the remark had perturbed me I would have been more inclined to ask what the reference meant before I launched into full attack mode.

This site was set up primarily to talk about Matt Monro, his music, his friends and as an aside any subjects that impact on our lives. My Forum is one of the best on the Internet - and that is because of the people that use it, the people who have staunchly supported the area since its inauguration many years ago. Whilst I am happy to welcome new members I am not prepared for disruption or personal insults aimed at any member.

Karl, I have in the past received more than 10 complaints about your behaviour on here but thought you might calm down but I don't understand your bitterness. You have also upset me personally by a couple of your comments about my book and whist you are perfectly allowed to have your own opinion, there is a way of saying things. You were blunt and I think down right rude with regard to the Foreword in the book, I was after all talking about the last few days of my father's life and whist the writing style or content might not sit well with you, there was no need to be so self-righteous in your opinion.

In this instance the comment was meant to be light hearted. It didn't detract from the seriousness of the subject matter. You should have taken on board what others said in the way of an explanation and accepted it. If you had felt further aggrieved that you should have commented on just that without resorting to petty jibes. Everyone has a right to an opinion, not just you.

I would suggest that if you can't play by my rules and think before you enter into battle then it would be best to aim your attacks at another website. I would be sorry to lose any member because I think everyone has something interesting or valuable to contribute, but that has to be your choice.

I will also point out that it is me that is a stickler for where threads are placed. It actually makes it easier for non-members who visit the site to find what they want. I'm sorry if that irks you Karl. We have more than 5000 hits each month and as your arithmetic can work out, most are visitors who merely read the posts preferring not to contribute. I would have been aghast if I had popped into the area and seen such behaviour and I would certainly not have been inclined to have joined up. Your behaviour is not fitting and I will not have people upset just for the sake of your frustration.

This notice applies to everyone who uses the Forum - if you can't play nicely, then don't play at all.

[karl]

Michele if you took my comment on your book as rude then you should have said something at the time as that was not my intention at making petty jibes as you put it, I loved the book but felt the foreward was unlike anything I had read in the past and it wasn't until other members commented on it that I realised what you were aiming for.

As for complaints about me, I could have made some myself but did not bother, I have had some rather caustic comments made by several members.

I am not bitter at all, this Pride Of Britain award thread blew up out of all proportion, I was talking about the 2011 show not the previous years when Cheryl Cole had a pie in the face, something which I did not even remember. The people who are given awards on that show move me greatly and I felt Robert was ridiculing it somewhat when basically it is a very serious show with some light hearted banter from the participants. However that seems to be Roberts sense of humour, he has his and I have mine.

I have become friendly with a few of the members on this site and we email personally, however if someone annoys me I tell them and that should be the end of it. In the future if something is said that is not fully understood I would appreciate a private email to sort things out without going behind my back and bothering you.

The written word is often misunderstood as your foreward in the book was to me, sometimes the same thing said in person is so much different as we see the look on the person's face or a twinkle in the eye. I have been the peacemaker in many a situation in recent years so as I've said if any of you have a problem come to me and we'll attempt to sort it out.

[Michele Monro]

I appreciate your comments Karl and look forward to your future contribution on the site. As I have aid many times before to different people, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but let's be more gentle in the way we try and get it across.