Radio Presenters......some of them should be banned!

michduncg · Post by **michduncg** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:15 am

I do agree that these presenters have caused offence, and that they have behaved like a couple of schoolboy pranksters, which they are anyway. Both Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand have built their careers on being cheeky chappies and the public have, in general, lapped it up. As a result, the broadcasters have given them pretty much free rein.

I don't think that the BBC has introduced swearing into society - - it mirrors society's general greater use of Anglo Saxon profanities! These words are used by people up and down the land day in and day out, in work, in the street and in the home. I'm not saying I agree with it, but lets not blame the BBC for it. Lets blame parents for not stopping their kids from swearing, And as for swearing in Eastenders, that is not the case.

The BBC call log for the show in question shows 2 complaints immediately after the show was aired, which has only risen since media and internet attention started to create further complaints.

mariana44 · Post by **mariana44** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:20 am

How can you say that Mike---Jonathan Ross is not a "Cheeky chappie"--he is disgusting and horrible---I do not know enough about Russell Brand to say too much--but i do not like what I have heard of him.

Lena & Harry Smith · Post by **Lena & Harry Smith** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:52 am

No Mike swearing wasn't introduced by the BBC to society, in fact it had a highly respected reputation that for many decades was kept intact, though now some could say the BBC invented it, and weather it's used up and down the land, in the work place or whatever, and although on this subject neither of us profess to be completely holier than thou, there are many adults, regardless of the watershed on tv and listening to it on the radio find it offensive.

michduncg · Post by **michduncg** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:21 am

Morning all - there was an interesting article on the Daily Telegraph website about the 'generational divide' that this debate is opening up! I would put a link in but it seems to have gone now!

Mariana - i know we've discussed Mr Ross in the past and I know we both have differing opinions about him

I personally think he is (this episode excluded) a talented presenter both on TV and radio. He's had some wonderful guests on his Radio 2 breakfast show including Julie Andrews and they seemed quite charmed by him. However, I do appreciate that his approach is not popular with all, and I know that my mother can't stand him and wouldn't dream of watching his shows. I must admit that it concerns me that his show is on BBC1 at a prime time, and I'm not sure that I'm comfortable that such an 'accessible' show should alienate a significant portion of the population.

Lena & Harry - I know what you mean about the BBC and how it should set higher standards. BUT the BBC is facing tougher and tougher competition from a multitude of channels and BBC1 in particular is always expected to perform well in the 'marketplace'.

mariana44 · Post by **mariana44** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:26 pm

Thanks for your reply Mike---and obviously we all have our own opinions--but it looks as though you are in the minority on this subject.

michduncg · Post by **michduncg** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:49 pm

Indeed Marian

Still, at least its kept the US elections off the top of the news stories[/list]

Lena & Harry Smith · Post by **Lena & Harry Smith** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:22 pm

Yes, I suppose that is a very good reason that the BBC have to compete with these other channels Mike.
We don't shock very easily, but many of these programmes do go over the top, but they mainly or often make us feel " uncomfortable."

john · Post by **john** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:20 pm

In the paper today it said Russell Brand is eager to get out of the country for a bit to escape the fire, but is due soon to record a show for Channel 4 for Christmas. He has asked for filming to be brought forward.

Marian · Post by **Marian** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:28 pm

Well he's very popular in the U.S. at the moment John, so I suppose he wants to be somewhere with less flack.
I see his new show was on Channel 4 last night anyway.
Marian

keithgood838 · Post by **keithgood838** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:31 pm

Brand and Ross of that ilk take our hard-earned
licence money and proceed to be offensive towards
us; the bungling bankers take our bail-out money
and use it to pay themselves huge bonuses - it's a
topsy-turvy world.
Keith

Lena & Harry Smith · Post by **Lena & Harry Smith** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:22 pm

Yes, and without feeling the slightest bit ashamed Keith, and then there's the MPs mis-using public money and supplementing their salaries by paying wages to members of their families instead of employing real staff, but what's so amazing is that in spite of names being made public there appears to be no feelings of guilt whatsoever. In fact it's water off a ducks back.

Gray · Post by **Gray** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:23 pm

Regarding Ross & Brand, the bottom line for me is that they left pretty disgusting messages on the answer phone of a 78 year old man.
Not only that, but the BBC then chose to broadcast it.

I find it very sad that
a) we seem to of lost a code of conduct that was always drummed into me as a child - respect for elders.
& b) that the youth, who will go on to form tomorrow's society in terms of it's morals and ethics, apparently want and demand this 'entertainment'.

Therefore, I think I was born into the wrong decade, I feel so out of touch with my peers and younger aquaintences.

michduncg · Post by **michduncg** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:41 pm

Echoes of an earlier conversation here I think Gray - was it the visit to a Comedy Club on your birthday that triggered it last time!

I remember saying at the time that I too despair of many aspects of modern life. Too many rights and not enough responsibilities is the problem in a nutshell.

ROBERT M. · Post by **ROBERT M.** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:53 am

Couldn't Andrew Sachs sue Radio 2 or RB and JR, as Andrew's name was made known to everyone who heard the show, with the presenters making derogatory remarks to Andrew and his family for the whole nation to hear (which was very wrong to me, "not" being a Libran)

If these "false remarks" appeared in a newspaper, then Andrew Sachs would definitely be able to sue, wouldn't he ??

Marian · Post by **Marian** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:03 am

I wasn't condoning what they did or said Robert. I just wanted to hear what had actually occurred before making a comment.
Unlike. it appears, a lot of people.

.. and were they 'false remarks'? Hurtful and thoughtless yes, to be left on an elderly man's answer phone, but I don't think they can be descibed as 'false.' I don't believe his granddaughter has denied the allegation.
Marian