Cy Coleman Documentary
Hi Robert---that does sound strange I guess. But don't get me wrong--I love all the shows I've seen in Uk--"Miss Saigon"[ with Lea Salonga too],
"Phantom" "Starlight Express" "Sunset Boulevard" "Guys and Dolls", and many more. It was not that I preferred the ones in USa, but Gray did say "which play [or musical] sticks out in your mind as your most enjoyable night out at the theatre, and to be watching a big show on Broadway is just unbelievable--likewise Las Vegas.
Maybe that was the same for Paul---being in a different and famous location makes it a whole new experience.
Marian
"Phantom" "Starlight Express" "Sunset Boulevard" "Guys and Dolls", and many more. It was not that I preferred the ones in USa, but Gray did say "which play [or musical] sticks out in your mind as your most enjoyable night out at the theatre, and to be watching a big show on Broadway is just unbelievable--likewise Las Vegas.
Maybe that was the same for Paul---being in a different and famous location makes it a whole new experience.
Marian
Mariana
Hi Paul--Lea Salonga is just brilliant--I recently bought the dvd of the Making of Miss Saigon, plus I have several dvd's and cd's of her singing Broadway songs-including live concerts--but they have all been imported via Ebay. She also recently took "Flower Drum Song" back to Broadway.
Marian
Marian
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Check Cy's CV at;-
http://www.songwritershalloffame.org
http://www.songwritershalloffame.org
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There was a group of Three male singers very popular back in the Fifties and Sixties who recorded "Real Live Girl " in 1964 they were" The King Brothers " on the Oriole CB Label, better remembered more for their "White Sports Coat And A Pink Carnation" number also a hit for Marty Robbins.
Julie Wilson also sings" Real Live Girl" on The Cy Coleman Songbook. DRG Label.
Well we have never been to America, and there have been many magical moments in the theatre, and this is just nostalgia, but going back, really going back
we remember being in the front row of the show "Underneath The Arches," with Christopher Timothy playing the part of Chesney Allen, and Roy Hudd as Bud Flanagen, of the famous well known Flanagen and Allen duo. Chesney had retired many years before due to poor health and it was the one night only historic appearance of Chesney Allen, and when he appeared on stage the entire theatre erupted with everyone singing which somehow sadly became a thing of the past.
We're glad to say we saw a revival of this a few months ago at the Hackney Empire when we saw a brilliant show " The Magic Of The Musicals," The audience along with the regular travelling show company were ahead of the orchestra in this.
That's Musicals for you

Julie Wilson also sings" Real Live Girl" on The Cy Coleman Songbook. DRG Label.
Well we have never been to America, and there have been many magical moments in the theatre, and this is just nostalgia, but going back, really going back

We're glad to say we saw a revival of this a few months ago at the Hackney Empire when we saw a brilliant show " The Magic Of The Musicals," The audience along with the regular travelling show company were ahead of the orchestra in this.
That's Musicals for you


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Hi All
Great web-site Mark, thanks for the link. This will keep me quiet for some reading reading through it.
Marian, how wonderful for you to of visited the States and seen such wonderful entertainment there. I love to visit America, haven't been for a few years now, but dream of returning one day!
And you're right, I was hoping people would tell stories of evenings where 'the arts' moved people so much it left nothing but wonderful memories of the occassion.
So thanks to Lena, Harry and Paul for their postings too!
Paul - thanks for your comments regarding stage fright, much appreciated. Could you tell me another of your magical theatrical nights, you mentioned there have been a few?!
Lena & Harry - I have heard of the King Brothers! Real live Girl looks to be more popular with balladiers than I thought!
If anyone has anymore theatrical memories, please post them, I'd love to read them.
Gray
Great web-site Mark, thanks for the link. This will keep me quiet for some reading reading through it.
Marian, how wonderful for you to of visited the States and seen such wonderful entertainment there. I love to visit America, haven't been for a few years now, but dream of returning one day!
And you're right, I was hoping people would tell stories of evenings where 'the arts' moved people so much it left nothing but wonderful memories of the occassion.
So thanks to Lena, Harry and Paul for their postings too!
Paul - thanks for your comments regarding stage fright, much appreciated. Could you tell me another of your magical theatrical nights, you mentioned there have been a few?!
Lena & Harry - I have heard of the King Brothers! Real live Girl looks to be more popular with balladiers than I thought!

If anyone has anymore theatrical memories, please post them, I'd love to read them.
Gray
Robert - Very good observation. Plus, Marian mentions Las Vegas. Guess where I'd rather spend a short break: Las Vegas or Blackpool?
Lena & Harry -- You've mentioned Julie Wilson twice in one week. I believe you said she was once Maria or Nellie (can't recall which). I didn't know she had stage musical experience. I saw her a few years ago at a cabaret room in Washington---a Cole Porter programme. I don't know if she's still singing. I would like to hear her sing Real Live Girl.
Back to Real Live Girl -- What makes the Matt Monro recording so wonderful (besides his always excellent vocals) is the arrangement. I love the back and forth part with the vocal and the orchestra. I tossed and turned this morning (couldn't sleep) thinking about the arrangement.
Gray -- Briefly, two other special musical experiences were when I accompanied the show. The first was Bye Bye Birdie in high school. We had outstanding singers and dancers. That is still one of my favourite musicals---great songs. Then several years later I accompanied many Gilbert & Sullivan shows with HMS Pinafore and Princess Ida being my favourites. I suggested that our soprano sing the high E (2.4 octaves above middle C) at the end of the second act or Princess Ida. She nailed it every night and the audience was incredibly impressed. I'm still working with this soprano 20 years later!
Lena & Harry -- You've mentioned Julie Wilson twice in one week. I believe you said she was once Maria or Nellie (can't recall which). I didn't know she had stage musical experience. I saw her a few years ago at a cabaret room in Washington---a Cole Porter programme. I don't know if she's still singing. I would like to hear her sing Real Live Girl.
Back to Real Live Girl -- What makes the Matt Monro recording so wonderful (besides his always excellent vocals) is the arrangement. I love the back and forth part with the vocal and the orchestra. I tossed and turned this morning (couldn't sleep) thinking about the arrangement.
Gray -- Briefly, two other special musical experiences were when I accompanied the show. The first was Bye Bye Birdie in high school. We had outstanding singers and dancers. That is still one of my favourite musicals---great songs. Then several years later I accompanied many Gilbert & Sullivan shows with HMS Pinafore and Princess Ida being my favourites. I suggested that our soprano sing the high E (2.4 octaves above middle C) at the end of the second act or Princess Ida. She nailed it every night and the audience was incredibly impressed. I'm still working with this soprano 20 years later!
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Paul, some information on Julie Wilson who played Nellie Forbush in South Pacific, replacing Mary Martin here in London. After replacing Lisa Kirk as Lois Bianca in the Broadway production of Kiss Me Kate in 1949 she went to Los Angeles with the National Company and then she signed up for the London premier in 1951. She was very successful with the London audiences.
She was a transatlantic commuter during this time between cabaret acts in New York and the Embassy in London while she kept her base in the British capital. After leaving Kiss Me Kate she she went on to star in London in "Bet Your Life," "South Pcific," and The Pyjama Game.
She even studied at RADA. before returning to New York for good in 1955
In the Nineteen Seventies she stayed home in Omaha due to family commitments, but was persuaded back in 1984 to perform Cole Porter songs in cabaret in New York.
She will be Eighty One now so possible retired.
She was a transatlantic commuter during this time between cabaret acts in New York and the Embassy in London while she kept her base in the British capital. After leaving Kiss Me Kate she she went on to star in London in "Bet Your Life," "South Pcific," and The Pyjama Game.
She even studied at RADA. before returning to New York for good in 1955
In the Nineteen Seventies she stayed home in Omaha due to family commitments, but was persuaded back in 1984 to perform Cole Porter songs in cabaret in New York.
She will be Eighty One now so possible retired.
Hi all--going back to the song "Real Live Girl"--it always fascinates me that Matt's version and Barry Manilow's version have different lyrics towards the end if the song--
Barry Manilow sings-
"Go be a hold out for Helen of Troy,
I am a healthy American Boy."
whereas Matt sings
"Speaking of miracles, this must be it.
Just when I started to learn how to knit"
Completely different
I just wondered where the different lyrics came from !!!
Marian
Barry Manilow sings-
"Go be a hold out for Helen of Troy,
I am a healthy American Boy."
whereas Matt sings
"Speaking of miracles, this must be it.
Just when I started to learn how to knit"
Completely different

I just wondered where the different lyrics came from !!!
Marian
Mariana
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Hi Marian, The words that Barry sings are his own, and from other web-sites with Barry's lyrics he has added even more to this song. Matt sings the Cy Coleman lyrics, but this was a tribute to Cy Coleman at an Actors Fund Benefit evening Honouring Cy after his death that was read and sung by Alan and Marilyn Bergman......to the tune of Real Live Girl.
Pardon Us Now As We Gratefully Bow
To A Guy Named Cy,
From Head To Toes' a
Hit Broadway Compos'a
This Guy Named Cy.
" Barnum" "Sweet Charity" "I Love My Wife"
" City Of Angels" "Will Rogers" "The Life"
Every First Night a
Would Say that That's Quite A Supply.
Ain't No Lie
From A Guy
Named CY.
Pardon Us Now As We Gratefully Bow
To A Guy Named Cy,
From Head To Toes' a
Hit Broadway Compos'a
This Guy Named Cy.
" Barnum" "Sweet Charity" "I Love My Wife"
" City Of Angels" "Will Rogers" "The Life"
Every First Night a
Would Say that That's Quite A Supply.
Ain't No Lie
From A Guy
Named CY.
Hi All
Paul - If you chose a performance of Bye Bye Birdie from High School that must of been something...was it because it was your first taste of performing? Or simply because your fellow students excelled themselves? I've think I've seen the movie Bye Bye Birdie, Ann Margret starred??? Is this the same show?
Can you please ask your sporano friend how she's kept her voice after 20 years plus? Plenty of rest? Only drink warm drinks? Only drink room temperature water? Don't speak(!)? All these things I've heard, does she practise any?
Do you sing Paul?
Gray
Paul - If you chose a performance of Bye Bye Birdie from High School that must of been something...was it because it was your first taste of performing? Or simply because your fellow students excelled themselves? I've think I've seen the movie Bye Bye Birdie, Ann Margret starred??? Is this the same show?
Can you please ask your sporano friend how she's kept her voice after 20 years plus? Plenty of rest? Only drink warm drinks? Only drink room temperature water? Don't speak(!)? All these things I've heard, does she practise any?
Do you sing Paul?
Gray
Aha!! I wonder---does Paul sing??--I do not think he does as he has never mentioned it, but he obviously knows a lot about singing.
Back to Cy Colman--I have to be honest I had never heard of him till his name came up on the forum. I knew that the Barry Manilow version had a lot more words, but I assumed that they were the original words, and Matt's had been added---well "Just as I started to Learn how to knit" is quite an unlikely line, isn't it??
The dedication to Cy was great--but that is Marilyn and Alan Bergman for you--just brilliant.
So he wrote "Barnum" and "Sweet Charity" too---would this be the same "Barnum" that Michael Crawford was in over 20 years ago--I went to see it in a theatre in Victoria. And of course I know the music from "Sweet Charity".
Marian
Back to Cy Colman--I have to be honest I had never heard of him till his name came up on the forum. I knew that the Barry Manilow version had a lot more words, but I assumed that they were the original words, and Matt's had been added---well "Just as I started to Learn how to knit" is quite an unlikely line, isn't it??
The dedication to Cy was great--but that is Marilyn and Alan Bergman for you--just brilliant.
So he wrote "Barnum" and "Sweet Charity" too---would this be the same "Barnum" that Michael Crawford was in over 20 years ago--I went to see it in a theatre in Victoria. And of course I know the music from "Sweet Charity".
Marian
Mariana